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Member ID: RedraifExtras

Location: Here, GA

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1987 Pontiac Firebird

Bragging Rights

  • 1/4 Mile16.7 sec @ 81 mph
  • 0-600sec
  • Top Speed115mph
  • HP143
  • Weight3376lbs

Major Upgrades

  • turbo
  • nitrous
  • bore increase
  • port and polish
  • supercharger
  • extrude honed
  • stroke increase
  • engine swap

Modifications

Performance Parts

Interior

Exterior Styling

  • Pilot Lighting 
  • Custom Body Kit 
  • BFGoodrich Tires 
  • Niche Wheels 

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    • Currently 2.8/5 Stars.
    • Currently 2.8/5 Stars.
    • Currently 2.6/5 Stars.
    • Currently 2.6/5 Stars.
    • Currently 2.6/5 Stars.
    • Currently 2.6/5 Stars.

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Last updated: Oct 10, 2006

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REDRAIF’s Pontiac Firebird
“RAIF'S ENGINE MODIFICATIONS”

  • Currently 2.78 /5 Stars.
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RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird'03
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1995 CAMARO 3.4L V-6
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Joe & I finally decided we are tired of trying to fix the darn 2.8... Mod after mod never produced the power it should have.

Now I got a new job as a service writer at a Chevy dealership. I worked for the very dealership that rebuilt my bottom end. It was during my employment I learned the truth about the first bottom end rebuild. A mechanic named Luke, who used to work there when the repair was done to my car, came by to visit some buddies who still worked there. He and I got to talking. He told me what he remembered about the rebuild that Glenn did on my 2.8. None of the mechanics thought the engine was rebuildable, but Glenn insisted. Instead of being honest, the mechanic decided he could make more $ on a rebuild than a swap. So I was told there was no wy to get a 2.8 block...I even asked for a bigger v-6 that would work! Turns out they could have put in a 3.4 from the get go! Dealers! When Glenn rebuilt it they all told him it would be back! The motor was a time bomb and totally out of balance. They were amazed it even ran! So exactly a year later, after Glenn was mysteriously no longer employed, the engine did go. Brent then rebuilt it the 2nd time. He got it in better shape and the repair lasted. He told me it never should have been rebuilt the first time, but his hands were now tied. All he was allowed to do was fix it, even though he felt a whole new block should have been dropped in.

So long story short, once I had all the information, I then knew why the engine shook like it did and never seemed to be able to make any decent power. Anyway, the hunt was on for a low mile 3.4L block.
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3.4 info off of www.firebirdv6.com

1993 - 1995 3.4 (207cid) STOCK
Type________________ L32
Configuration_______ OHV 60� V6
Displacement________ 3.4L (204 ci)
Engine Block________ Cast Iron
Bore________________ 3.62 in
Stroke______________ 3.31 in
Compression Ratio___ 9.0:1
Firing Order________ 1-2-3-4-5-6
Fuel________________ 87 octane
Fuel System_________ SFI
Fuel Pressure_______ ? psi (ignition ON)
____________________ 3-10 psi loss at idle
Injector Size_______ 17 lbs (AC Delco 217-301)
Cylinder Heads______ Cast Iron
Combustion Chamber__ ?
Intake Valve________ 1.720 in
Exhaust Valve_______ 1.430 in
Exhaust Manifold____ Cast
Intake Manifold @ TB__ Straight
Throttle Body_______ 50 mm
MAF_________________ ?
Thermostat__________ 195�
Oil_________________ 5W-30
Oil Pressure @ OT___ 50-65 psi @ 2400 rpm
Flywheel Horsepower_ 160 @4500 rpm
Flywheel Torque_____ 200 @3500 rpm

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Further information showed us the heads are the same on all of the RWD 2.8, 3.1, and 3.4 Firebirds & Camaros. Believe it or not the same heads came on the Fiero! The S10/Blazer has different heads though!

One difference I did not expect... the pistons are recessed on the 3.4...
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they were flat on the 2.8!
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Finally I find one with only 50,000 MILES� $600.00 later I have it at home. Some finagling and I get a good friend to let me use her shop to install the motor over a weekend.

Well it took longer then a weekend since the block and tranny were getting a good candy apple red paint job. After some issues getting the timing straight, the beast was alive and what a difference!
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UNDERDRIVE PULLEY
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When we did the motor swap it was the perfect time to add the new ASP underdrive pulley!
Here is the stock one...
RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird
Here it is on the motor out of the car...
RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird
IN the car
RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird
With the belt
RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird
Here is is with a new coat of paint!
RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird
Well all was well, and the car seemed ok with this pulley at first. I listened to what everyone said and did not get the ASP alternator pulley.
RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird
RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird
Well as time went on I noticed the atlernator was not keeping up. The alternator was completely rebuild by a shop, not some parts store reman unit! With the new alternator, I got a new March pully, but still in the stock size...
RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird
Even still, it kept dropping to 10-11 volts. This was not right. So I figured it was the pulley size causing the problems.

So I then ordered the March's smaller diameter pulley. Here you can see the new March pully is much smaller in diameter...
RedraifExtras's 1987 Pontiac Firebird
This did the trick. Now the alternator kept the car at 14 volts stong!

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Follow this link to additional information on the car not found on this site!
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DIRECTORY FOR RAIF'S ENGINE PERFORMANCE SITE
01 Site Overview
02 Most Current Dyno and Track run
03 Early Cold Air Induction System
04 2001 Modifications
05 2001 Track Times
06 2002 Modifications
07 2002 Dyno & Track Times
08 2002 Fall Modifications
09 2002 Fall Dyno & Track Times
10 2003 Distributor rebuild
11 2003 Transgo Shift Kit & Stall Converter
12 2003 May Dyno
13 2003 3.4L Engine Swap <<<
14 2003 3.73 Disc Rearend Swap
15 2003 December Dyno
16 2004 Cutout & PF&E Headers
17 2004 Dyno
18 2004 / 2005 Transmission
19 2005 3in Mandrel Bent Exhaust & Dyno Results
20 2005 Truleo Intake, 65mm Ford Throttle body, Stock, & Disassembly Pictures
21 2005 Truleo Intake, Ford TB, & Fuel Rail Installation
22 2005 Truleo Intake & Ford TB Vacuum Line Routing
23 2005 Truleo Intake & Ford TB Custom Linkage Installation
24 2006 MSD Box & New fuel Pump
25 2006 Old Heads: Gasket Match Ported, & General Porting Information
26 2006 New Heads: Extreme Porting
27 2006 New Heads: Multiangle Valve Job, 1.6 Roller Tip Rockers, Beefier Valve springs
28 2006 Lower Runner (Intake Base) Gasket Match Porting
29 2006 Extreme Lower Runner (Intake Base) Porting
30 2006 Dyno Results: Truleo & New Head Combo
31 Future Plans

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JoeCool97Formula  

Posted by: JoeCool97Formula

06/21/2006 11:23AM

Nice car. I think. Too many pages (31) to go through.

Firebug2k5  

Posted by: Firebug2k5

06/08/2006 10:41AM

this is the best most informative site on cardomain.com ive ever been on! i love pontiacs and i own a 94 Grand Prix you should come check out sometime. I definately think that u should make ur own site for this generation of Firebirds! Great job on the car, and the hood looks good, ive seen a couple Grand Prix's in the 92-96 gen. that molded the RAM II scoops to the hood and made it look nice, i think someday im going to do the same! PS i had to add u to my friends so i can come back to the site all week at work just to read it all!

jim-haddad  

Posted by: jim-haddad

05/25/2006 10:10AM

good job on the site, check out my mercedes on 20's in my guarage and my other rides in here www.cardomain.com/id/chahaddad

Hot_240SX  

Posted by: Hot_240SX

05/17/2006 06:17PM

Nice Firebird. The engine is looking good. Keep up the excellent work on your Firebird. Sign my g-book. Thanks!

scoo944  

Posted by: scoo944

09/09/2005 08:35PM

nice nice..i got a red 2.8 m5 bird, good stuff, really clean and love the mods..im hopin for some turbo action if i can't get 4th with one already in it...good work

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Member ID: RedraifExtras

Location: Here, GA