Juli 25, 2008
I planned to go on this trip together with Marcel, aka the Witchdokter as people tend to call him now, for 2 day stay in Britan. We took of early in the Evening and after a three hours drive we arrived at the harbour. I slept the whole boat trip and before i knew it we were in England at our tuning desination early the next day. Back at Mark, Rod and Dino, three hardcore petrolheads with each one of them having a passion for mad cars.
Rod immidiatly started working on the electronics when i parked and that pleased me a lot. :) i thought this is going to be smoothly and fast. WROONNG, i forgot that my car could be a bitch and she showd she could.
What was in the pipeline and why.
-8 injector setup
-remapping the autronic on those 8 injectors and the new 75mm throttlebody.
Rod made some connectors the night before we arrived. One of the things i thought were going to take some time. Now all he had to do was to take the wires to the ecu, wire it up and be done.
THe wiring up took a lot of time because i have the sm2 autrinic unit. If Rod needs to work his way thru the Autronic manuel than you know this is not a dayly done job. But he got it wired up in the end and thats all that counts. ( props to rod if you read this ).
A newer version chip needed to be installed to controll the 8 injectors but that chip didnt get my engine to run. At first Mark thought that the chip could be faulty but these chips were never faulty in the past so why now. After a lot of testing and trying he got the engine to run. Finally, as i was beginning to lose hope.
Now all we had to do was to connect the secondary fuelrail to the fuel lines and be done. And again trouble look over our shoulders as it the fuel was pouring all over the place. The problem seem to be in the construction of the manifold. The weldings for the sec fuelrail were at a wrong angle so the sealings wouldnt close on top of the injectors. F##k me why is this happening. I thought of benging the manifold but that idee was lost by everyone, we swapped the fuelrail front to back maybe it had better sealings but still fuel poured thru 2 injectors. Looking at it closely it seemed that the fuel came thru the injectors themselfs. They had never seen this before on any other injector so it was a first for everyone. Maybe someone experimented with them prior to them being sold to me but it almost ruined my trip to England. The seconday injectors were swapped by stock evo 8 ones and now everything was done.
The engine fired up, the injectors werent leaking and they seemed to work all 8 of them. Needless to say i was happy as hell.
Mapping time. Hop on the road again and one problem after the came up.
Connectors falling of, boostpipes being blown of, Blowoff valve popping out of the pipe making a leak in my coolant hose ( glad it wasnt pointed towards my hood as it would have boosted right thru the bonnet at over 2 bar, and finally when everything was tight the oilchecker came out at full boost making my windshield all oiled up and hard to look thru when we mapped full 3th and 4th gear on the narrow bumpy Englisch roads.
But in the end Mark nailed it. Again the 2.37 bars of boost but now on 8 injectors 750cc front and 560cc rear, makes 1310cc total per cylinder ) and the 75mm throttlebody.
My gains... the engine is in balance. It idles like a stock 4g63 engine wtch makes it fun to drive around town and easy for the m.o.t. But when oyu step on the gas it goes like a rocket. The 8 inj spread out the fuel more controlled in the whole of the rev range witch is never a bad thing ringt so the frontwheels can put that power down to the road.
Yes boys and girls a fwd car, one driven youre a believer. The Jackson engine finally has the best the world had to offer.
One the trailer fueling up for our trip to the island
Mark, Rod and Dino all under my hood thinking about the meaning of life and why they should live after getting involved with my project.
On our way back we stopped at japperformanceparts. Topguys and again they know exactly what they were doing. When we arrived most of these guys were all around the trailer respecting the project. I felt the warmth of the English tuning community, way different from Holland. Love that island. Respect returned and everyone working there was very friendly.
There were Evo engines all over the place and even a broken up Evo 10 from Japan :) The Toyota Soarer was for sale ( never seen these driftmasters in Holland for sale on the road ) and the owner of the store, Sajid who is an uber nice fellow, has a GTR R34 Skyline for his dayly car. n.i.c.eee. ee
1st England Mapping story just below the engine specs.
Engine swap for a 6 bolt 4G63T
2.3 Jam stroker shortblok build to handle 650HP
HKS Cams 264 / 272
Greddy big intercooler
Hard 3,25 inch intercooler piping
Magnus alu intake
Magnus poly intake gasket
Bigger bored Throttlebody
Injen intake filter and intake pipes
Moroso Oilpan aluminium
Buschur spark coils
Denso iridium ik27 sparkplugs
Dual row 1310 cc total ball injectors
Aluminium radiator Fluidyne
Welded stainless steel exhaust with Tail external wastegate
HKS limited Edition series 3 inch stainless steel / carbon exhaust
R&R exhaust manifold
Tial 38mm wastegate
Exedy dual stage clutch
Greddy Intercooler with custom piping
HKS SSQV Bov
Polyurethane engine mounts
solid engine ground wires and completly rewires mass
Garret ballbearing GT30 turboCustom downpipe stainless steel
aluminium drivewheels for oilpump and waterpump
Samco hoses all around
Quaife differential uprates axle diameters
New Shephard tranny stage 2 GST gearbox with bigger 5th gear
WP Pro 338mm 6 pod front brakes
Stock size Brembo reardiscs
19 Inch Racing Hart aluminium rims
Pirelli Zero Nero 19x235x35 tires
Tein Flex set with EDFC
Shiftline stiffened with brass and urethane bushings
Autronic MC2 with traction control and closed loop settings
Apexi S-AVCR boostcontroller
June 25, 2007 getting to England and getting the car mapped.
Sooowww we just got back from the UK were all the engine strings were put together with the mapping of the Autronic unit. And what a trip it was. First of we met some wonderful people over there.
When the mapper said that he couldnt install the new intake with dual row injectors i was a little disapointed at first. But he assured me rigth afterwards that a smooth idle and easy start up could be achieved with the 1000cc injectors. He i beleaved him even before he even did one thing soo lets try it.
He wasnt wrong after all. Just a a few tweaks and he got the engine to idle smoothly and a start was made.
Than after some more fidling around with his laptop ( god knows what he was doing, probably laughing his pant off doing nothing lust looking interesting ;) the engine improved by the second. ( he did do something then )
Time for a first run. Are you ready Dragan. Yes i am. Lets go. Ok�. After a mile or two we hit a small B road with bumps and uneven levitation. Is this were we are going to map the Eclipse. Its not made for these roads !!!i thought.
But, since i am not mr scary pants i thought i'dd folow his instructions blindly. After 2 "easy on the throttle" runs he told me to floor it. ( my brain showed me all sorts of things instantly. Like before you die you see your childhood, puberty, getting married, having your first and second baby, enjoyable life moments and hard live moments, but then in carform ) FLOOR IT ? ( what flashes trhough my brain was, smoke, white, grey and black, power down after 2 seconds, towing the car home, rebuilding the fucker, buying new parts etc etc. Angry wife not to forget ) FLOOR IT, he said again. Know that this all happened within the timeframe of 1 second.
Stupid guy that i am i floored the throttle all the way down. 100% on my avc-r tps reading. I was in 3d gear and the car started reving like a it always wanted to but never could. The fence was open for this little horsy under the bonnet and offf it was. Nothing broke, NOTHING. Run after run he told me to floor it and finetuned the settings.
But then, when the final run came i heard a big bang underneath the hood. ( shit i though see what happens if you floor this machine.... but as if god wanted it to happen the next thing i saw was a policeman on a motorbike. He� whats he looking at. Were just cruising around here. If i past him with the 120mph we were doing on that road he would have come after us for sure. Some luck with the unluck then.
After that we limped home and i was prepearing for the worst. A boost pipe that came of thats it. Just a boost pipe. We reconnected the pipe and tightened it up real good. Even checking the other pipes afterwards. Dragan did you have a blinker on this side of the bumper. Yes. Its gone now. Ohh ok�, hope nobody was standing next to me car when it boosted out of the bumper. I asked what boost it was running. 2.23 Bar he told me. *@#$ is what i thought bedazelled, 2.. what. I was hoping for something up to 2 bar max. This is much more than i expected. yep, and safe too. Its just that your car is all over the road. Yes mr but its an Eclipse fwd not an Evo 4wd. The whole body is made for the flat roads. Thats its playfield not the green bush bush.
No more runs for today for me after the boost hike. Tommorow we would go on the highway to map the boost out. Jobs done.
After that we looked for 2 hours for a place to sleep. tjeez everything was full so i was glad in the end we found a place to sleep some 35 miles away. Even that was a lucky shot because someone just cancelled it. Otherwise we would have slept in the cars. Not a real problem but a bath and telly were more than welcome after the nighty boattrip and the mapping day. I slept like a rose.
The next day we arrived at the mappers residence but no mapper to be found. He's always a little late they tell me. No problem here, its not everyday that youre in England sharing thoughts with fellow petrol heads. I have notished that you need a loose bolt in the head to enjoy all of this. Everybody over there has one or two loose or even gone and me and Marcel are missing a few links in the brain here and there too. But thats a good thing actualy because life can be too serious anyway sometimes.
But then Mark arrives. Morning, Morning Dragan. Did you get your curage pills today ?? wha ? you will need them. We'll see, we'll see. But he was right a little. The day that we were going to map it on full boost on the highway it was poring rain like nature wanted to get rid of us all and tried washing us away from the planet.
If curage pills excisted i would have taken one or two after i saw that. Are we going through with the mapping today Mark. Yes why not. ( yeah i have 10 reasons why not but he thats just me ) After the rain stopped we went inside the car and straight to the highway.
It was a rather crouwded road as it was lunchtime but he only wanted me to do one thing. Floor it. And i did. I cant say i was afraid or not but i just did what needed to be done. But than i never saw highways with this many bends before. Running it full boost in 4th gear with this kind of traffic wasnt something i do eveyday and i can tell you i will never do again if i dont have to. But i did. In the end it just gave me total confidence in my machine and when he told me i took a wrong turn i just hit the steering wheel to got the car 180 degrees around. Something he didnt expect to happen i think. But of we went to are final run.
He is a total fearless guy and didnt care what i was doing as long as i put my padle down when he asked me. He doesnt know me ! Maybe i just got this car and i cant drive at all. We would both die! DIIIEEEE!!! We wouldnt Dragan.
He's truly a fearless guy.
After that we drove back to HQ and one thing was cool. Dragan can you open up a window. No problem mr mapper are you ok�. I feel a little carsick. Oh alright is it the hard suspension ? could be your drivng Dragan! whats that mr.
After all the mapping we headed back to the ferry to get home again from that windy island. On the way back i boosted past Marcels trailer setup like the wind. The AVC-R reported 2.33 bar of boost now.( back in Holland even 2.36Bar. Better air ;)
We took it VERY easy from here on and somehow we missed the boat ;) duh, and so we needed to spend the night at the harbor. Marcel had his Evo 3 on a trailer so we figured to have drive around town with my Eclipse to check out what it could do and chill a little at a fuel station. Since it was in the middle of the night we could test the car out a little. I went three fast rounds on a roundabound and you just cant believe this is a frontwheel drive car doing this. It takes bends like there's no tommorow. Almost no understeer anymore at all due to the Autronic's traction control. The Quaiffe, traction, big wheels, good allighnment and some driving experience ( ofcourse, hehe ) all came together here. Even Marcel was very impressed by this and he onws of the fastest European Evo3's. But running through a tunnel, window open and on full boost is a momorable experience too. I will shoot some vids of the car in the future and post them on. Hope i didnt bore you all of with this long story. There is soo much more i could have told but that would have needed a few more pages. I had a good trip, it was an expirience i will always remember and i know Marcel thinks the same about it. You can read his shorter version here.
Marcel's shorter mapping experience
Thank you England.
2003 and older below !
Just for the record. The first pictures are rather old. The engine had 264WHP and 391NM first. That should be more in the 450WHP and 500NM now ( havnt tested it yet )
Let me start by saying the GS non turbo engine was replaced with a Galant VR 4 from Japan. It is a very strong first generation 6 bolt engine.
I have the following mods installed with some comming within a month. Have it all in stock right now. ( pic is older will be updated )
HKS Cams 264 / 272
Welded exhaust with external wastegate
custom intercooler ( came of a Skyline : )
Good ignition cables. ( very VERY important )
solid engine ground wires ( also very
Garret ballbearing GT10 turbo
550 injectors witch could be too small
Fuell pres regulator
when it gets installed come Januari )
Partial 3 inch and 2,25 inch custom exhaust from front to end.
New to be installed stuff. The VPC was not in this pic butalready here as are the HKS headkasket and some other goods.
Apexi SAVC boostcontroller
HKS VPC / will be replaced bij the Autronic
Apexi fuel AFC / will be replaced bij the Autronic
Datalog cable for checking the error ( engine swap makes it hard ! )
Autometer Cobalt series, Tach, Fuel Press, Oil pres, Tach shiftlight, Boost, EGT and Air-fuel. They look very good in the evening. Top stuff
The boost gauge was in service at Autometer because the light didn't work. Respect to Autometer for repairing an exported gauge and returning it costfree.
The standard VR4 engine has 210 hp and with the open exhaust it breaths 265 hp and 391 nm. The high nm is because of the VR4 intake. It opens up in two fases during accelaration.
The Garret and VPC etc will be installed within a few weeks and i am really looking forward to that.
The pistons will not be messed with right now because the boost this engine can take is 30 psi. Yes the full monty. ALthough i dont know how long it will hold but the fellows at www.mastaminds.com raced with the same ( stock internals ) engine and did the boost.
I am very happy to be having about 430 hp as it is and safe and very fast a little reliable. for 100 more i could have gotten the 100 hp bigger turbo and 200 more a 600 hp Garret but this one is smooth and fast. I cant be ashamed having 400 can i. In Holland that is a lot.
Oops i almost forgot. I have a CO2 chiller set installed too. Whe purge system is purely for shows but the hell it is really cool
I have to fully test it yet but is looks very sweet already. The bottle will be placed between the custom sub instal where the rearseat used to be. You can check out the audio section.
I just got the main blok back. It has the following done to it.
Crank balance shaft removed and eliminator kit placed. Balanced electronicly at 0 gram, incl the ACT fywheel and underpully mounted.
flattened bottom and head and exhaust sides.
New Evo piston rings, and all new bearings.
HKS camgears and camsprings installed icl Venom camgears.
HKS Headgasket installed with ARP headstuds. The block is totally cleaned and respraid. It took a long time but things are finally taking shape. More news soon.
Update May 2004.
This is a pic of the engine being reasembled again. It still missing some glossy showparts but looking good already.
This is a final list of engine mods. I dont know the HP but it is a good balance between quality stuff and drivability.
I guess 450 whp and 450 / 500 NM torgue ( this was 391 NM before with 265 WHP! )
Engine slightly honed
Piston rings replaced by Evo rings
Act light flywheel installed
Balance weigths removed and eliminator kit placed
Crack balanced electronacly at 0 grams
crank and other bearings replaced with new
HKS cams 264 intake 272 out
Shaven and polished head
Extra strong exhaust manifold bolds
Engine mountingpoints for the gaskets are straightened for airtight fits
Respraid blok and head ( as new )
Stainles steel exhaust manifold
Garret / hybrid ball bearing turbo GT10
New oilfeedlines with filter installed
HKS intake filter
Fic polished fuelrail
550cc injectors will be 660 soon
Greddy piping and custom piping.
Bigger bore pipe that mouts to the throttle body ( TB is already very big )
Ported and cleaned Cyclone intake ( no aftermarket intake for me this is the ultimate
torgue thing : )
HKS ssqv bov
Aluminium radiator brackets : )
Alu radiator pipe ( nice touch )
Urethane motormounts ( no more wheel hopping for my 2wd finally
And the HKS limited edition carbon / titanium high power exhaust
And the top of the tip, new JDM horn, toet : )
I could have missed something but that is about it.
The Fal fans just came in.
A little setback on the engine. The flywheel that i got in was to small so the starter didnt work. New flywheel comming in and a new clutch because this one did slip a lot. The flywheel was blue already after 600 miles. 1000 Euro out of the pocket. And know that i have a set of Act clutch and flywheel already. What a loss.
10 juli 2004.
To be save when i pull i will hopfully be getting a Quaife differential too. It is such a sweet piece of gear on paper and i really hope to have one soon. Excactly what my front wheel drive needs. Good steady rider and puller and the thing will not be notishable under normal driving.
I am getting things from roadraceengineering from now on. I didnt get any mail back from Mastaminds after the flywheel issue? dont know why but RRE is da way to go. ( he good slogan :)
Update Jan 2005. The Quaife diff is a masterpiece of gear. It feels like you are in total control of the car and i have more grip. The 235 Pirelli tires ( Zero Nero ) do a good job of maintaining contact with the road too. The trackion control on my new ecu should be the final nail on keeping trackion. I geuss the car should go from o to 60 MPH under 5 seconds.
For the extra breathing that the car is going to need i have had the HKS limited fully 3 inch ( internal ) exhaust imported. Has a BIG carbonfire pot and a titanium tip. I will leave a burn on it. Jan 2005. Yes it has a burned tip.
thank you Scott and Matt from vaperformance. Never too shy to order the parts that other people cant ship to me. The perfect BIG BOX exporters in the us.
This is the car i found on 12 Juli 2004.
Brakes are 1 mm of so they need filling up in the middle :(
New clutch ( act 2600 ) and new bigger flywheel have to arrive yet.:(
Lots of electrical things to do. New window switches ( illuminating ) VPC, P9 radio ( while they are at it it is the best electric man around at Coltco ) and so may more thing too. It should be drivable again by the end of Juli and than it will be a monster.
By the way i am ordering a Quaife diff today. The best thing sinds they invented fuel for the car.
The new exhaust is installed. No i have notished that some exhaust point almost 45 degrees to the side. Is that a HKS thing ?? looks good though and the carbonfibre pot doesnt look out of place on the car. Now for some testing soon. The conversion still isnt finished as we wait for the new and stronger ACT 2600 clutch and flywheel to arrive and i have ordered a Quaife diff in the proces too. That should keep the power of this FWD monster down a bit and makes it a serious drag contender if i would need that. But please note that this will be a cruise and show machine mainly.
16 September 2004.
I have blown my engine today. I was ready to pick the car up today after 8 months of being away for parts and tuning the engine it was the first day i had it back. Went to a boost of 22 / 23 PSI and then ppssss. Black oil all over the engine bay and trying to start it was a no go. Broken stock pistons. Notish the absense of other pistons in the list above. No i have to hone the engine again and then fit the Wiseco's in and the new conrods.
Just ordered. Wiseco pistons and new conrods.
That Garret GT10 is a beast man it blows the car over the road ( for 1 minute )
New gear comming up.
This is one of the more recent pics. It was taken at Speed and Design Nov 2004 here in Holland before the car went to the stand.
All i need now is two black covers in stead of the white ones ( above right )
New battery poles from Phoenix Gold or maybe RF. And if Leo ( carbonwerks ) is so nice to design an engine cover for the front part than i will place that there too. Than it is done. 400 WHP in a green box. The Quaife is a big help for putting the power down on dry roads. The boost controller can be set to each gear so in 1st and 2nd i can run on lower boost but when it is slighty damp i have wheelspin in 5th gear. Auwch.
When it is dry however it pulls like a monkey on steroids. That F&F movie blurr efferct does excist in real live. That damn Garret doesnt know when to quit :). That is ok since i let WP Pro deal with that. All sorted.
Not the sharpest pic but i will post a new one soon.