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Member ID: nick931s

Location: Cambridge, MA

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1980 Porsche 924

Bragging Rights

  • 1/4 Mile0 sec @ -1 mph
  • 0-606sec
  • Top Speed150mph
  • HP250
  • Weight2779lbs

Major Upgrades

  • turbo
  • nitrous
  • bore increase
  • port and polish
  • supercharger
  • extrude honed
  • stroke increase
  • engine swap

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nick’s Porsche 924

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TURBO, WASTEGATE, AND ANCILLARIES

nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924


ABOVE: Stock K26 fitted with an Audi compressor housing, bored & polished with a larger compressor wheel.


Earlier photos:
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nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924 nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924

This configuration is hitting 11psi at ~3200rpm. I start hitting positive boost pressure at 2200rpm.

The plumbing runs as follows:

Fresh air into turbo:
- 6" long tapered, 2.25" opening, S & B air filter
- 2.25" to 2" reducing silicone hose
- Turbo: 2" inlet

Compressed air out of turbo / into intercooler:
- Turbo: 2" outlet
- 2" 45 degree silicone hose on turbo out
- 8" length of 2" aluminum straight pipe
- 2" to 2.25" 90 degree silicone hose into intercooler
- Intercooler: 2.375" inlet

Cooled air out of intercooler / into throttle body:
- Intercooler: 2.375" outlet
- 2.375" silicone hose with 1" BOV tee
- 2.25" flared end pipe, 5" length
- 2.25" to 3" 90 degree silicone hose
- 3" throttle body inlet

Sounds complicated, but's really very elegant plumbing. The pipe diameters are on the small side, but they're big enough to avoid being a restriction and small enough to keep the volume down that the turbo has to fill. Everything looks like it's supposed to be there - the ultimate goal!

Here's the Forge Motorsports Blow Off Valve that sits between the intercooler and intake manifold:
nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924

nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924The wastegate is a 930 (911 Turbo) part. The rubber diaphragm had a few cuts in it when I first opened it up. Andial carries replacement diaphragms. As you can see in the pic the support bracket is cracked. This seems to be a common failure and likely led to the broken J-pipe I found while pulling apart the exhaust. I found a replacement J-pipe through (gasp) AutoAtlanta. The bracket was replaced with a used piece from a parted 931.

The addition of the intercooler proved a little tricky. I finally decided on placing it between the engine and nose. The 931 nose panel vents will work great to force cool air through it. A sheet metal shroud will provide the duct-work.

The big trick is that the IC inlet is at a terrible angle. So... off to the friendly cast aluminum weld shop. Cut the old inlet off, and relocate it.

The intake manifold is the other big trick. The stock throttle body faces the completely opposite direction that I need it to. My solution is to cut the plenum off the runners and weld a new one in its place. The new throttle body will be facing the driver's side fender. This will only require a 90* turn to plumb from the intercooler. A vast improvement over all the turns and bends the stock intake charge is required to make.

The new plenum will be tapped for the pressure line going to the MAP sensor (inside the MS controller), a vacuum line going to the brake booster, a vacuum line going to the blow off valve (BOV), and for the intake air temperature (IAT) sensor.

The turbo gets fed from a cone filter located next to the oil cooler. The vents in the front valence will provide cool fresh air to the intake. Some more shrouding work ensures that air from the vent will be split partially to the intake and partially to the oil cooler. As it is, the oil cooler just picks up whatever air happens to be pushed through it.

The throttle body itself is a 60mm unit from an '86-93 5.0L Mustang. It comes with a throttle position switch (TPS) that will easily interface with the MegaSquirt EFI. In addition, I'll use the fast idle circuit that mounts to the side of the TB. This is also controlled by the MS and helps to keep the idle up when the engine is cool.

For the hot side of the turbo I managed to find a perfect non-cracked exhaust manifold - which is a rarity. I cleaned the manifold up and sprayed it with a super-hi-temp silver paint then cured it according to the directions using my gas grill (worked great!). I like to paint engine bay items lighter colors so I can easily see any leaks or problems. While I had some down-time I polished as much of the inside of the manifold that I could reach with a flexi-dremmel attachment. It smoothed out the runners quite a bit.

I also had the exhaust manifold drilled for the EGT probe.

nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924 The stock wastegate spring is set to 0.43 bar (6 psi) for the US market. I'll be matching the 0.65 bar (9.5 psi) boost pressures the RoW models used by adding a simple boost controller. I opted for Boostscience's Reliaboost II. It's just a simple Grainger valve that cuts the signal to the wastegate until the preset boost level is reached. This should keep the wastegate from creeping open until max boost is reached.

*Note about ReliaboostII fitment. The stock wastegate line is a 3/8" inner diameter and the Reliaboost uses 1/4" fittings. You need two 3/8" to 1/4" male-male barbs to plumb in this controller.

Old Results (3/04)
The turbo whine is music to my ears! I get a full 11psi at about 3100 RPM (stock is 6psi @ 3500 RPM). The exhaust has a great sounding rumble at idle that quites down at speed. The boost controller really seems to be doing its job!

nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924


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(pics of JE build turbo)
The original K26/6 turbo was rebuilt by a small shop in Southeast MA (508-234-9615). I sourced the rebuild kit from PartWerks of Chicago (sometimes pricey, but they find obscure parts) for a bit over $100. The rebuild came in at $350 which included welding a small crack in the cast iron hot side. This turbo has a larger compressor wheel than that in the '81-'82 models and builds more boost than the later models. The drawback is that the boost comes on a bit later.

nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924 Here is a shot of the welded manifold I was using. This weld actually cracked too (likely from the extreme heat from detonation). Be sure to look check for cracks if/when you pull your manifold off!

These old KKK's have historically short lifespans. Much of this is due to the fact that this technology was relatively new back in 1980 and proper cool-down procedures and oil change schedules weren't met. Plus these turbos were oil-cooled only, which certainly doesn't help their longevity even though a proper oil cooler is fitted to them by the factory. With proper maintenance and healthy Mobil 1 oil changes I'm looking forward to getting some good mileage out of this one.

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lenkru  

Posted by: lenkru

10/04/2008 05:34AM

Hi The car really looks good. They are great cars for their age but can be a real pain to work on or find parts for. Do you have any idea where I can find a LS diff for my G31 transmission? My car is quick but I suffer from a lot of wheel spin coming out of corners.

daskar911  

Posted by: daskar911

07/10/2008 04:31PM

GREAT WORK on the car and documenting the work!! I have a question regarding the pistons. What exact size did you use, and how are they now, sometime after install? Thanks Mike

nick931s  

Posted by: nick931s

06/23/2008 08:09PM

Hey folks - I think these messages were going to my junk mail for a while... anyway Reaper - the vacuum lines vary, but the small silicon lines are 3.5mm if I remember correctly. 924guy - all set on wall hangers :) k_way - GPS is my regular shop, no doubt it was me you saw there. Definitely a small world! hesperia - thanks for the note! The tan bits are all long gone, but I have a black carpet set I'll sell for cheap. Cheers!

hesperia  

Posted by: hesperia

06/23/2008 07:00PM

I have an 81' 924 turbo. I see from your pics, that you had the tan interior. I have the same in mine, but no history about it. If you still have any interior parts, such as carpet, seats, or rear hatch area carpet, please contact me. I have a small issue with one of my seats, and the carpet needs replacing, as well as the rear privacy screen needs replacing. It works, but the caseing needs repairs. Let me know. I would like to say that you did an extrodenary job with your restoration. Thank you for all the information you put in your posting. You did a great job. I give you one star above the highest ( 6 ).

k_way745  

Posted by: k_way745

04/11/2008 07:23PM

Is this car @ G.P.S. right now? I had never seen one until I stopped by there today. Did a google search and this came up. Small world if that was yours, nice to be able to see all the work that went into it. Pretty cool car you have there.

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Location: Cambridge, MA