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Member ID: nick931s

Location: Cambridge, MA

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1980 Porsche 924

Bragging Rights

  • 1/4 Mile0 sec @ -1 mph
  • 0-606sec
  • Top Speed150mph
  • HP250
  • Weight2779lbs

Major Upgrades

  • turbo
  • nitrous
  • bore increase
  • port and polish
  • supercharger
  • extrude honed
  • stroke increase
  • engine swap

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    • Currently 3.4/5 Stars.

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nick’s Porsche 924

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ENGINE INTERNALS

nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924

I've been through a number of various engine build combinations.
Here is what makes up the latest build.


- 88mm VW Flat-top hypereutectic pistons with coated skirts
- Block bored & honed
- Cylinder-to-piston clearance set at 0.002"
- Deck skimmed to straighten ~0.003"
- Block hot tanked, primered & painted silver

- Crankshaft journals polished, left standard size
- New rod & main bearings

- Rods reconditioned
- Stock 24mm small end bushings replaced with 22mm bushings

- Balanced all rotating mass: crankshaft, rods (with bearing shell weight), pistons/pins/clips, flywheel, front crankshaft pulley and timing trigger pulley

- Head intake ports gasket matched
- Intake manifold ports gasket matched
- Head combustion chamber volume opened to 25cc
- Head combustion chamber polished
- New valve guide seals

- Raceware head studs
- All new gaskets / oil seals / crush rings
- New clutch / throw out bearing / guide tube / fork bearings
- Alloy 911SC pressure plate (7.5lbs lighter than stock)
- Flywheel surface turned
- Flywheel lightened by 2lbs

With all these goodies, I'm hoping to push the engine to a solid 250hp as a start. With a 2800lb curb weight, that should make for a fairly quick ride. After that, I'll start looking into upgrading the turbo and maybe playing with the exhaust and cam.

And here are all sorts of various pics of the fun.

nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924Pulling some extra volume out of the stock 931 head.
The first pic shows an almost-done combustion chamber on #1. You can compare it to the unfinished chambers to see just how much was taken out.

Flat-top VW Pistons with coated skirts, yes, these really are only $80 for a set through AA Pistons. Just remember to replace their rings if you're runnig forced induction!
nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924

Awaiting bare block, and freshly polished crank
nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924

Lightweight alloy pressure plate with higher clamping force. Saves 5 lbs of rotating mass!
nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924
There are a couple versions of this pressure plate. There are two versions for the stock 931, and three versions that are 911-based. I'm using the alloy/iron version.


Sachs #3032.015.399-b2
Alloy casing / alloy friction surface
*requires modified 931 ring gear, or 911 ring gear
Weighs 6.5 lbs. with TO bearing

Sachs #3032.015.399
Alloy casing / iron friction surface
Works with stock 931 ring gear
Weighs 9lbs. with TO bearing

Sachs #3032.055.099
Iron casing / iron friction surface
Stock 931 pressure plate
Weighs 14lbs with TO bearing

Sachs #???
Iron casing / iron friction surface
For use with a rubber-center clutch on a 931
Weighs ??

The stock specs for the pressure plates are as follows-

7200-7900N for stock 931 pressure plate
7800-8500N for stock 911 pressure plate

Although the alloy/alloy b2 pressure plate felt like the pedal was much stiffer which would imply more clamping force. This could be a "sport" version.

Lightened flywheel
nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924
nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924

Clutch bolted up
nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924

Intake
nick931s's 1980 Porsche 924

During the reassembly, I also tapped the oil pan using a time-sert for an oil temperature sender to keep an eye on temperatures.


931 Performance

Porsche factory numbers are notoriously conservative. I haven't found many magazine tests, but I'll add them when I do.

US 1979-1980
156hp @ 5500rpm
157 ft-lbs @ 3500rpm
7.5:1 compression
0.43 - 0.47 bar (6.2 - 6.8 psi)
0-100 kph (~62mph) = 9.4 sec
1/4 mile = 16.3 sec
Top speed = 132mph [143mph magazine test]
Weight = 2779 lbs.

US 1981-1982
156hp @ 5750rpm
160ft-lbs @ 3500rpm
8.0:1 compression
0.43 - 0.47 bar (6.2 - 6.8 psi)
0-100 kph = 9.3 sec
1/4 mile = 16.2 sec
Top Speed = 134mph
Weight = 2779 lbs.

RoW 1979-1980
170hp @ 5500rpm
187 ft-lbs @ 3500rpm
7.5:1 compression
0.67 - 0.73 bar (9.7 - 10.6 psi)
0-100 kph = 7.8 sec
Top speed = 140mph
Weight = 2779 lbs.

RoW 1981-1982
177hp @ 5500rpm
190 ft-lbs @ 3500rpm
8.5:1 compression
0.62 - 0.68 bar (9 - 9.9 psi)
2596 lbs
0-100 kph = 7.7 sec [7.1 sec magazine test]
Top Speed = 143mph
Weight = 2779 lbs.

The Carrera GT, with hardly more than an added top-mount intercooler and an 0.75 bar boost pressure is reported as giving the following numbers:

1981 924 Carrera GT
210hp @ 6000rpm
213 ft-lbs
8.5:1 compression
0.75 bar (10.9 psi)
0-100kph = 6.5 secs
weight = 2600 lbs.

I'm shooting to approach 250hp at the rear wheels with this current build. Where that will put me on the performance map is hard to say. With an extra 180lbs and an extra 40hp over the GT, I think that 0-62mph in under 6.5 secs is a pretty safe bet.

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lenkru  

Posted by: lenkru

10/04/2008 05:34AM

Hi The car really looks good. They are great cars for their age but can be a real pain to work on or find parts for. Do you have any idea where I can find a LS diff for my G31 transmission? My car is quick but I suffer from a lot of wheel spin coming out of corners.

daskar911  

Posted by: daskar911

07/10/2008 04:31PM

GREAT WORK on the car and documenting the work!! I have a question regarding the pistons. What exact size did you use, and how are they now, sometime after install? Thanks Mike

nick931s  

Posted by: nick931s

06/23/2008 08:09PM

Hey folks - I think these messages were going to my junk mail for a while... anyway Reaper - the vacuum lines vary, but the small silicon lines are 3.5mm if I remember correctly. 924guy - all set on wall hangers :) k_way - GPS is my regular shop, no doubt it was me you saw there. Definitely a small world! hesperia - thanks for the note! The tan bits are all long gone, but I have a black carpet set I'll sell for cheap. Cheers!

hesperia  

Posted by: hesperia

06/23/2008 07:00PM

I have an 81' 924 turbo. I see from your pics, that you had the tan interior. I have the same in mine, but no history about it. If you still have any interior parts, such as carpet, seats, or rear hatch area carpet, please contact me. I have a small issue with one of my seats, and the carpet needs replacing, as well as the rear privacy screen needs replacing. It works, but the caseing needs repairs. Let me know. I would like to say that you did an extrodenary job with your restoration. Thank you for all the information you put in your posting. You did a great job. I give you one star above the highest ( 6 ).

k_way745  

Posted by: k_way745

04/11/2008 07:23PM

Is this car @ G.P.S. right now? I had never seen one until I stopped by there today. Did a google search and this came up. Small world if that was yours, nice to be able to see all the work that went into it. Pretty cool car you have there.

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Location: Cambridge, MA