I found some old rims on craigslist dirt cheap...I wish I would have taken a before and after picture of how they looked. They were pitted chipped and rusted but I sanded, stripped and repainted them. I'm pleased with the results. There's something about a do it yourself job that makes you feel accomplished. Anyway, they're only 20's but they'll do for now...plus like I said, they were dirt cheap..may as well have been free!