well this is my workhorse. it has pulled stumps, stuck cars, and even snowmobiles off the trail. i have gotten everything i have asked out of this van. strong enough to pull a 24' cabin cruiser. and has 230,00 miles on the orig engine. have taken it down some of the sloppiest trails ever following jeeps only to have to pull them out instead of the other way around. it needs new springs and bushings all around so soon it will be lift 4 inches to fit bigger tires and more ground clearance.