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1978 Fiat Spider

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  • 1/4 Mile0 sec @ -1 mph
  • 0-600sec
  • Top Speed-1mph
  • HP-1
  • Weight-1lbs

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  • turbo
  • nitrous
  • bore increase
  • port and polish
  • supercharger
  • extrude honed
  • stroke increase
  • engine swap

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Produced almost exclusively for the North American market, though sold occasionally in various European countries (but for example never sold new in Australia or Great Britain) the Fiat 124/2000 SPYDER convertible is now becoming a popular choice for inexpensive, fun, wind-in-the-face top down motoring. Designed by Italian stylist and coachbuilder Pininfarina and suggestive of his Ferrari 275GTS, the SPYDER was a companion to the 124 Coupewhose mechanicals it shared - notably the same high-performance, four-cylinder dohc motor. The SPYDER outlived the Coupe and rivaled the MGB and Alfa SPIDER as the world's longest-running sports car. When introduced the combination of an alloy head, twin-cam, belt driven engine with four-wheel disc brakes and a top that could be raised or lowered at a stoplight with one hand was simply amazing. A pleasure to drive and capable of 100mph; the liveliest of the SPYDERS up to 1974 are considered by many to be better than the competing Alfas. The ultimate variant is the rare and desirable Abarth SPYDER, built for competition in the early to mid 1970's.
Development: Fiat SPYDERS can be roughly categorized into four groups, known as the AS, BS, CS and DS series. The initial production date with a subgroup (if applicable) are described below.
November, 1966, AS: Car is introduced ahead of the Coupe as the "124 SPYDER" and based on a shortened floorpan and suspension of the 124 Sedan; shorter than the Coupe, too. Single-carburetor 1438 cc engine, 4 or 5-speed gearbox, torque tube rear suspension. Single headlights. Radiator grille parallel slats. Badge on bonnet.
Late 1968: Rear suspension revised with twin radius arms each side, torque tube driveshaft replaced by a conventional driveshaft with u-joints.
Late 1969, BS: Same as except for honeycomb grille with badge moved onto the grille.
July, 1970, BS1: 1608cc twin-carburetor engine (not for US) as in 125 saloon; 1438cc optional, soon dropped. Power bulges on bonnet except for single-carburetor US model.
September, 1972, CS: 1608cc redesigned using short-stroke version of 132 saloon and now is 1592cc with single-carburetor. Performance did not match the previous 1608cc.
July, 1973, CS1: 1592cc replaced by single-carburetor 1756cc engine from 132 saloon. First US emission controls begin to appear.
1974 model year: As a "phase-in" to the coming 1975 federal regulations requiring bumpers to withstand 5 MPH impacts, the states of California and Maryland require 2.5 MPH bumpers. Cars destined for sale in these two states only are fitted with small chrome "over-riders" on the "stock" bumpers.
September, 1974: Last Fiat-badged SPYDER built for European sale. Sales now "officially" confined to the North American market.
September, 1974: 1975 model year SPYDERS now have heavy, energy-absorbing 5 MPH bumpers replacing the previous chrome bumpers. Car's height raised for US safety regulations. California versions now required to have catalytic converter. Air pumps and other emission controls are added as necessary.
Jul 1978-Oct 1979, CS2 (SPYDER 2000): Name "officially" changes to the "2000 SPYDER" with the introduction of single-carburetor, 1995cc engine with catalytic converter. 3-speed automatic transmission becomes optional. Wide oblong mesh grille; badge on bonnet; larger power bulges.
May 1979-Jul 1982, CSO (SPYDER 2000): Fuel-injection phased in for 1980 model year, but during 1980 model year a mix of both carbureted and fuel-injected cars are made depending upon the state the car is destined to be sold in. For 1981 model year Fiat USA, Inc. makes "Turbo" SPYDERS available with conversion done by Legend Industries. Torque, if not acceleration, improved.
Mar 1982: Pininfarina themselves, who had always assembled the SPYDER's bodies since production began in 1966, takeover sole responsibility from Fiat for the entire assembly, distribution and marketing of the car. For the 1983 model year the "Fiat" name and badging are dropped, it is now called the "Pininfarina SPYDER Azzura". European sales resumed as the "SPYDER Europa" without catalytic converter. The "faux" rear seat the car always had is now replaced by a luggage shelf.
1983: The dashboard and center consoles are redesigned for the 1983 model year along with other minor changes in badging, mirrors and trim. In Europe a Volumex (supercharged) version of SPYDER Europa is introduced.
1985: Rack and pinion steering and larger disc brakes are introduced late in 1985 model year production. The last SPYDER Europa is made as Pininfarina needs assembly line space to produce the forthcoming 1987 Cadillac Allante in conjunction with General Motors.
SPYDER Beginning Chassis Number for Model Year
1967: 0000? 1973: 63,308 (1592 engine) 1980: 157,654
1968: 5619 1974: 71,650 1981: 171,001
1969: 10,554 1975: 88,792 1982: 193,850
1970: 21,861 1976: 99,909 1983: 196,789
1971: 33,950 1977: 113,343 1984: 550366
1972: 47,032 1978: 126,001 1985: 5506060
1973: 59,592 (1608 engine) 1979: 142,514
Specifications
Engine: double, overhead cam 4-cyl, AS/BS: 1438cc, 8.9:1 compression, single Weber downdraught carb; BS1: 1608cc, 9.8:1, twin Weber or Solex carbs; CS: 1592cc, 9.8:1, single Weber or Solex carb; CS1: 1756cc, 9.8:1 (US: 8.1:1), single Weber or Solex carb; SPYDER 2000: 1995cc, 8.9:1 (US: 8.1:1); single Weber carb; SPYDER 2000/Pininfarina: 1995cc, 8.1:1, Bosch fuel-injection.
Exhaust system: Single outlet; 1608cc engine utilizes three resonators; all other engines use two. Catalytic converter fitted where necessary.
Transmission: 5-speed manual, all synchro (very early cars are 4-speeds) with floor shift. CS2: optional 3-speed automatic; final drive AS: 4.1:1; BS1/CS1: 4.3:1; SPYDER 2000: 3.9:1.
Steering: Worm and roller; turning circle 10.4m.; 1985 1/2 Pininfarina rack and pinion.
Suspension: Front: independent, coils, wishbones, anti-roll bar. Rear: rigid rear axle, coil springs, anti-roll bar; torque tube, Panhard rod; 1968-on: upper & lower radius arms, Panhard rod.
Brakes: 266mm discs front and rear, servo-assisted. AS: single-circuit hydraulic. BS/CS/DS: Dual circuit.; 1985 1/2 Pininfarina 275mm discs front
Wheels/tyres: 5 1/2 x 13in; 185/70. SPYDER 2000: 5 1/2 x 14in;185/60.
Wheelbase: 7.48 feet
Length: AS/BS: 13.02 ft.; CS/DS: 13.58 ft.
Width: 5.29 ft.
Height: 49.2 inches
Weight: AS/BS: 2086 lbs.; CS: 2185 lbs.; CS1: 2350 lbs.; SPYDER 2000: 2363
Fuel tank: 13.5 gallons
Performance
1438: 96bhp @ 6000rpm, 0-60mph 11.9s, max 106mph, 25mpg
1608: 104bhp @ 6000rpm, 0-60mph 12.2s, max 112mph, 23mpg
1592: ??bhp @ ?000rpm, 0-60mph ?s, max ?mph, 23mpg
1756: 86bhp @ 5800rpm, 0-60mph 14.8s, max 95mph, 23mpg
1995 with carb: 80bhp @ 5100rpm, 0-60mph 10.6s, max 102mph, 22mpg
1995 with fuel injection: 101bhp @ 5100rpm, 0-60mph 10.3s, max 102mph, 24mpg
1995 fuel injection turbo: 120bhp @ 6000rpm, 0-60mph 10.1s, max 106mph, 22mpg
What To Look For:
Engine: If properly maintained, trouble-free and almost indestructible, 100,000 miles is no problem. Prone to oil leaks from gaskets and joints. Distributors can wear internally. Dirty water in radiator means possibly corroded water galleries in aluminum head, which can corrode with age and potential overheating and head gasket failure. Head gaskets are easily replaced (relatively speaking) and the weekend mechanic can usually handle this job. Top end tends to noisiness with age, requiring resetting valve/tappet clearances. Re-shimming and re-setting is relatively easy procedure except for math involved in selecting shim sizes. Hardening of valve seals and guide wear produces puffs of exhaust smoke when accelerating/decelerating. Cam belt should be replaced at least every 30,000 miles or if damaged or oil-contaminated. If doubtful when last replaced do so immediately - a belt breakage could destroy the engine. Low-slung oil pan, especially on the 2000 SPYDER, and the oil pump pick-up inside it, are vulnerable to damage.
Body: Somewhat rust-prone, especially inside the front fenders (later models had plastic inner fender liners which can be fitted to earlier cars), bottom of front fenders and especially the folded-over edge of rear wheel well arches which have inner and outer skins - a rust trap in itself. If windshield or top or windows have leaked, the floorpan could be rusted. Rocker panels are bolted on and cover the sills, which could be rusted underneath. Door hinges may have cracked. If soft top has been raised/lowered single-handedly by driver - and it can be done - or if the driver was umm... a bit overweight, the driver's seat frame may have broken, especially in 1979 model cars
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Location: Maranello Italy, FL