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Member ID: a67goatnut

Location: Orting, WA

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1965 Pontiac Tempest

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  • 1/4 Mile0 sec @ -1 mph
  • 0-600sec
  • Top Speed-1mph
  • HP-1
  • Weight-1lbs

Major Upgrades

  • turbo
  • nitrous
  • bore increase
  • port and polish
  • supercharger
  • extrude honed
  • stroke increase
  • engine swap

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    • Currently 3.6/5 Stars.

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Last updated: Nov 17, 2008

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Scott’s Pontiac Tempest

  • Currently 3.65 /5 Stars.
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I've started to remove some of the rusted piece. At the left side where I've done some removal you can see a strip of a rubber like material that was installed between the two panels to seal from water and/or air leaks. I will modify this a bit. I will not try to reinstall another such strip. Instead I will try to seal the area with caulk after the panel has been replaced.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I have removed some of the screws from the "A" pillar to access the repair area better.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

You can see in this shot that the replacement panel does not have lines that are as "crisp" as those from the original piece. I will try to correct this .....somehow.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I am starting to remove the rest of the piece from the car. I have rolled part of the panel over onto the dash area. You can see more of the seal that is sandwiched between the two metals. This may have retained dirt and moisture causing this area to rust so badly.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I have left this corner in until I figure out how I want to proceed. This is the area that I was referring to earlier when I mentioned the crisp lines. The replacement part has very "round" corners.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Here is a shot of the first part that I have removed. I will take more of the area out but I only want to remove enough right now so that I can layout the final cut. The final cut will be closer to the area where there is still paint on the dash.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

OK, I'm done now! Well, I wish!
The replacement panel is just laying in place right now. Still quite a bit more cutting/removal left before I can fire up the welder. It is starting to look so much better already.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

It has been a while since I have reported any change with the wagon. I finally got a chance to spend some time on it. I was concerned that when I remove the existing rusted window channel, that the dash could easily move about. I decided to be cautious and secure it in place with this rod that you see in this picture. It may look funky but it worked great.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Then I laid out the area that I would cut with tape. You can see that I have started the cut already at the left side in this picture.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Here I have started the removal. I ground the spot welds to weaken the metal around them.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

In this shot you can see where the weakened metal is tearing around the spot weld. I carefully did this to each spot weld. My thinking is that I want to leave as much material remaining on this piece so that I do not have to replace it too. I plan to plug weld through holes in the replacement piece right at the same spot as the original spot welds. As you can see it is the best looking metal that I have to weld back to.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Here the entire old channel is removed. The crumpled remnants lay in the way. Out with the old in with the new!
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I have changed my mind again and decided not to try and use the original "ends". Here in this shot I am pointing out the new spot that I will cut on the passenger side.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

After the corner is removed you can see that this is an area that several pieces of metal come together. When I was tearing this all apart, there was a large chunk of material that was very close in consistency to Plumbers putty. I have also removed pieces of a yellow seam sealer type of material from here. This is important to note because after I weld the new piece in, I will want to try and duplicated the seal as best as possible. More to come on that later.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I will use all of the replacement part on the drivers side. This area of the car was in bad shape and in need of replacement. The new part is not the best in this area. You will notice in the next couple of shots that I have to do some modifications to meet my strict quality control inspection. OK it will fit better!
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I projected each of the spot welds onto the dash using the yellow marker. I temporarily installed the replacement channel long enough to project the layout marks onto the new channel.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Next, I drilled each of these locations. I will "plug weld" each of these locations at the original spot weld locations.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Looks like the holes match the locations of the old "spots". The plan is coming together!

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I want to get ready to sandblast for my metal repairs now. I did not want to deal with the engine and trans in the way any more so out they come.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I have completed the sandblasting now.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I have done the final fitting of the replacement part here. Because of the rust removal from the sandblasting and the thinning of the metal in this area I will not butt weld the seem between the replacement piece and the dash. I will leave the 3/16" ovelap and weld them together at the edge of the new steel.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Well some time has passed again without much work completed. I have been cleaning and doing some mechanical repairs on the GTO. I did manage to get a little work done to the windshield area on the wagon. The next couple pics show what I've done and ...where the car repair is at today. I will be hitting this hard again after the Memorial day weekend. We take our annual trip to Bend Oregon for the Goat herd's Tiger Run - GTO show. Hope to see you there. If not, I'm sorry that you missed out on the FUN!

I primered the repair area with a weld through primer. Welding "precisely" placed tacks is soo much easier with nice clean metal so I ground back the primer a little bit.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

The replacement piece is back in place for the last time!
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Well, I think it is clamped well enough to get 'er tacked in place.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Getting enough tacks and plug welds to remove the clamps.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

An example of a plug weld.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I like welding a few tacks and then grinding them before welding more tacks. Take it slow and watch the heat!
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Trial fit with the cowl cover. I suggest checking your fit several times along the way. This is just the first photo that I took. I measured, test fit and measured several times and places before welding. I also continued to check dimensions and fit along the way.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Well it is a week after Memorial Day and I have only spent a few hours working on the car since the last photo. I have stitched some more tacks about every half inch .....
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

....and a little more than half of the plug welds.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I finally got the dash repair completed or at least to a point of ...more block sanding.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

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a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Remember this shot? I feel a need to work on this for a while. Mix it up a bit!

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

A shot with everything stripped and a thorough washing. This is way out of chronological sequence but a good photo of what I started with.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I have removed the undesirearble piece of the dash.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Here are the old and new (replacement) pieces.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

Here is a shot of the final test fit.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

I put a few tacks at each splice and plug welded at each of the old spot welds and I was able to remove the clamps.
a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

And the Ashtray fits too!

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

The last four months have gone by quickly with very little work happening to the wagon except for the rims and tires as you see here! These are the original rims with a media blasting, DP90, red vinyl stripe and matte finish clear. I'm making a custom set of dogdish hubcaps that should look great on these rims. For the price of these Goodyears I thought I would try the whitewall thing for a while. It is kinda growing on me. Should compliment the red body with the white top well. I have managed to compelety dismantle the tailgate and all of the rear window trim and seals which all proved to be ...challenging!!! Any way, expect some more posting to come soon.

a67goatnut's 1965 Pontiac Tempest

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Garage510  

Posted by: Garage510

11/27/2008 06:30AM

Hey, Scott, how you doing? Happy Thanksgiving! Cheers!!!

Dart_Doctor  

Posted by: Dart_Doctor

11/22/2008 06:53PM

Looking good. Great work done on that one. Keep it up. Gotta give it 5 stars, nothing less. Keep up with it and have lots of fun come take a look at my 92 DODGE AND 64 PLYMOUTH some time

Garage510  

Posted by: Garage510

11/21/2008 04:43AM

Hey, Scott, nice to see you update your Tempest page again. Yes, the Cameo red with white top would look best on that sweet wagon. And don't try to make it a GTO wagon. Let it remain what it is...a nice Tempest Wagon. Regards and hope all's well with you there. Cheers!!! Check out Serino-Hot-Rod member page. He's got a 64 Tempest wagon as well as many other "enviable" rides. Nice guy too from Long Island, NY.

Garage510  

Posted by: Garage510

06/25/2008 09:04PM

Hi, Scott, how you doing with your rides so far? It's been a while since we've been in touch here. Hope everything's fine with you there. Cheers!!!

keith100  

Posted by: keith100

01/11/2008 11:11AM

Scott: I'm considering the 65 wagon on ebay right now. Unfortunately it's been GTO-ized, but nothing too serious. A big issue for me is how to get the car from Staten Island to Vancouver Island, and buying it sight-unseen. How difficult has it been for you to get interior parts for your wagon? I'm looking at replacing door panels and hardware as well as headliner. Can you recommend a good shop? Thanks...

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Location: Orting, WA